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    2:01 PM on May. 26, 2015
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    6. My Younger Brother : Mentioned in my previous<a href="http://tdvixjibtm.com"> cemmont</a>. Cleared Bihar Engineering in 2005 with 1 yr drop. He couldn't give his best to studies because of lot of family issues. Dropped for IIT JEE 2006 on my advice and I didn't allow him to take admission in BIT Sindri Mining saying it would affect his prepartion. Couldn't appear for IIT JEE 2006 because of 1 yr rule. I didn't teach him anything, no oaching and an AIR of 70000 in AIEEE. Missed Bihar Engineering because exam got pre-poned. I judged and scolded him and he lost the student in him. After 1 year of serious conseling and persuasion, he agreed to appear for entrance exams after May 2006. Only 3 exams left, Allahabad Agriculture univ, BCA Bharati Vidyapeeth Pune, IIPS Indore BCA +MCA 6 yrs. Cleared all three and took admission in IIPS Indore for BCA + MCA in 2007 with a 3 yr break. Did below average in 1st yr, average in 2nd yr. I encouraged and supported him, visited his hostel in 2nd yr during end sem for help in exam. 3rd year started preparing for MCA entrance from a local famous institute run by a single man. (institute produce half of top rankers in MCA entrance). Gradually started doing good inside coaching, but wasn't the best in institute. I supported him. Got real nervous and had little preparation for BCA final year exam because of coaching commitments (took 7 am till 10 pm) of his time with breaks for classes only to get attendance complete. I flew to him on a one day notice, without informing my boss. Was able to teach him only for 6 days. because for 1st 4 days he went to coaching and didn't dare talk to teacher about letting him go. So I had to talk to his teacher and asked him to let him study. Taught for 6 days and he appeared for 3 papers. I came back when he still had 2 papers. Result : Top Ranks in all MCA entrance exams. Chose NIT Trichy. Didn't get good ranks in MCA Roorkee because I pulled him out. Passed : BCA final year papers.NIT Trichy : No support in course work from me. I wanted him to study with batchmates. 1st year: Got supple (I pointed out angrily that I can't come every time leaving my job to help him with his course work) 2nd Year : Decent (encouraged but just over phone and gave study material/video lectures) 3rd Year : Better and on going.Conclusion :1. Cracking entrance exam using highly specialized coaching doesn't mean that you will do good once inside.2. Support and encouragement matters a lot, but won't be needed if you don't make the mistakes in first place and don't advise wrong.3. Mistakes are correctable.4. Drops are not advised, definitely not more than 1 yr. 5. India now offers a lot of opportunities but become employable. Learn rather than get grades. If college is not good, you can get study materials from NPTEL/MIT Open Course ware/Berkley and Stanford/ A good source is videolectures.net. I learned my CS fundamentals from there, even after I am a B.Tech from IITK
    11:32 AM on May. 25, 2015
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    about CPI not being sole criterion of <a href="http://xacsrxh.com">suecscs<
    /a> so I will not comment on that again. I will bring another view to it. The real cost of a IIT education or anything in life is Opportunity cost. As 12th class student, we all are unable to understand it, but it becomes more predominant in later years of life. I support IITs for implementing the 1 year drop criterion and it comes from my personal experiences. My story: Didn't appear for any engineering exam in 12th passing year. Deemed Engineering too expensive and no one in my circle (seniors/teachers) had cleared JEE. In 2000, appeared for JEE screening without much preparation. Started preparation and same year cleared Bihar Engineering but didn't get admission, because I want to go for JEE. Cleared JEE in 2001, but got my degree with 1 yr extension. Doing well now in Job. The Cost : 2 yr lost, in which I could have easily done M.Tech from IIT.My Best Friend, Saurav : Cleared Bihar Engineering in 2000 and went to NIT Trichy. Passed out in 2004 2 yrs before me with good grades. Went to IIM later.Saurav's Elder Brother Gaurav: Brilliant chap. Was 3rd topper of his college with 80 plus % marks in 12th in Bihar board. Couldn't clear JEE in 2 attempts so went to HBTI Kanpur. Kept preparing for JEE in HBTI also and skipped his 1st year exam for JEE. Couldn't clear again. He was a topper throughout his B.Tech in HBTI but because of his mistake graduated in 5 yrs. (The longing for JEE).My Another Batchmate, Shailesh : The most brilliant of our batch. Cleared JEE with 1 yr drop but about 1500 rank, took admission to IIT Kgp, and prepared for JEE again this time went to IITD with only slightly better rank. His CPI in Kgp also suffered. Lost a year because of preparation.My Another Coaching Mate, Gopal : cleared JEE with me at rank 1300, went to IIT Kgp, Dropped out and went to FITJEE Delhi, prepared again and got rank of 85. Came in IITK CSE as my junior. Lost 1 yr because of JEE. My Another Friend, Deepak : Cleared Bihar Engineering in 2001, couldn't clear JEE,so went to BIT Sindri in Civil, did M.Tech. from IIT Roorkee in 2007 and now employed with Airport Authority of IndiaMy Younger Brother : Cleared Bihar Engineering after 1 yr drop. But I suggested him drop it and keep on preparing for JEE 2006. IIT implemented 1 yr drop rule. That plus some other issues and he got depressed and did really bad in AIEEE also. He vowed not to study and I had a hard time persuading him. Finally got admitted him to a Tier 3 college in BCA after 3 yr drop. Now he is pursuing MCA from NIT Trichy. He studies is delayed by 4 yrs because of all wrong choices. In reality, I have seen more examples of my younger brother, Gaurav and Shailesh. In south I see more examples of Saurav and Deepak. The real cost of IIT is opportunity cost. The time lost in preparation which is irrecoverable. I sometimes think, was going to IIT the best decision I made. No doubt it taught me a lot and I have the IIT Brand. But the cost on family resources was really worth IIT at that time. I was happy that IIT implemented the 1 yr drop rule. There was a time, when IITs were only way to get a sure shot job but that has changed now. My brother's classmate opted for a BCA from St Xaviers Ranchi and she got hired by Wipro in her final yr from campus. She is doing M.Tech from BITS Pilani now in 4 yrs. (while on job). The new JEE may miss some of the anecdotal examples and some diversity, but JEE is all about selecting the best based on statistics and statistics can't go on chasing the LONG TAIL of Data.
    9:11 PM on May. 24, 2015
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    You haven't stepped into IIT so you aren't in a potiison to comment about what I'm talking (right now).I have seen a good fraction of CS/EE grads take to entrepreneurship/research/MS-PhD even though they could have got a finance/consulting job or an MBA. At the same time I have seen that most Mechanical Engineering grads cancel their MIT/Stanford admits the moment they get a pseudo management job. There is a possibility and there are some cases where people develop a liking for alloted branches ( if they had an interest to begin with ) . But, statistically this is not the case. Most such people use IIT as an exit option to fields other than science/engineering. b) In my last comment, you can think of "CS/EE" as "in-demand-branches" . Maybe something else like Mech/Chem will be in demand somewhere in the future ( which will happen when the world realizes its energy resources have reached an end game ). My point is that IIT should identify the "in-demand" branches and increase the proportion of seats in those.c) I think it will be nice if IIT keeps some track of what its students/ex-students do. What percentage of CS/EE grads went for higher studies ? What percentage of grads from other branches went for MS/PhD despite having job offers from good companies ? d) People running after good placements are not necessarily the most insecure ones. From my sample spaces, these are the ones who are most likely to chuck their jobs a couple of years later - to take to entrepreneurship ( after having saved up some money ). What is wrong with that ? It is good for the country.e)You are wrong about people opting for CS/EE not out of passion. Placements do sway the decision of course but I have seen CS/EE students go for MS/PhD despite having good job offers. Maybe, these 2 theory/math-heavy branches appeal to the somewhat theoretical type of students who are successful at JEE. Maybe people are more fascinated by small things than big things . Even 50% of MIT freshmen opt for these 2 majors. Let's be honest here, why did you opt for Mathematics&Computing ( I did too in my time, despite having some okay BTech courses available ).Because the Math/Computing component fascinated you. Like it appeals to many JEE qualifiers. Maybe the JEE is selecting too many theorists, but that is besides the point. In any case, if people had been opting for CS/EE purely for placements, EE would have been no where close to CS. I can only make guesses about trends and preferences, but I think IIT needs to do some research into how seats need to be distributed between departments.